Got these a while ago, they are sweet got medium and I wear elasticated wraps under them which makes them perfect, I tend to still get painful knuckles when using these on their own, as they are pretty thin (standard 4oz). However they have started to split at the ends of the fingers (well the flames have) and there is a pretty big hole (5-6mm) in between the middle two fingers on the right hand, this may be due to doing press-ups on a concrete floor but I'm not sure. They get used about3-4 times a week and have broken in nice, still solid but with a nice shape to them now. I don't think that they'll last too long prolly a year or two, I do use a canvas bag which does seem to affect the finish a bit. The tri wrap system is cool and gives adequate (but not too much) support however if you have weak wrists you will notice, I went from always using Fairtex 10oz Muay Thai comp gloves to these and I noticed that my wrists were not as strong as I thought!
One thing is for sure these look the biz, if that matters to you then get these as they are prolly the nicest flamed 4oz gloves around. I have the black! But for the money they could have been a little better, if your on a budget then stay away as these are not really good value for money. You could pick up a cheap pair on a certain auction site, and one of me mates has and is very happy. But mine still look better!!!