Excellent gloves!!! Used to prefer harbinger but these don't have the restriction of a thumbhole and extended finger padding making them brilliant for technical finishing aswell as Gn'P.

Great glove, love the quality and fit. Plus hell they are green. I use them alot training because of the open palm, but they are just a perfect all around glove!!

I liked these gloves the second I pulled them out of their package. I got size medium, color blue. I love the fact that they offer these gloves in colors other than the typical black or red. The padding is robust, and conforms easily to your hand. I have had them for a week now, and they are starting to break in nicely. The stitching is great and the leather is sleek and soft. I hardly even noticed that these gloves did not have a thumb strap. The padding fits nicely over the knuckles, and does not slide around. There are only 2 drawbacks that I have found on this glove, but they are not too serious. 1: It is a challenge to get the wrist strap tight around my wrist - I cannot do it by myself, and when a partner does it, the tri-wrap velcro pads don't quite line up. 2: There is a strange mesh flap on the inside of the glove (which I'm assuming is to wick away sweat) that your fingers can get all tangled up in when putting on the glove at first. It adds to the difficulty of getting this glove on, especially with sweaty hands. Overall, this is a great glove for all-around training. The padding is quite protective for striking pads, and the freedom of the fingers and thumb makes this glove a dream for grappling. 4.5 / 5.

these gloves are awsome lasted me for 5 years time for a renewal i think